Am I being an asshole
Answered 4 years ago
As short as I can be trying to include details, I spoilt the kids at Christmas, I do. I spend 6 months sourcing things I buy from marketplace gumtree and shops.
It always ends up being about $700 or more. Give or take. (2 kids)
To give context I don’t buy them things other than Christmas and birthdays (sometimes as a bribe maybe)
They are great kids.
Hubby is from a poor upbringing, he rarely gets me anything for bday and Christmas.
He would get the kids two or three things if it were him.
I buy what I want regardless. (We can absolutely afford it)
He sees it as spoiling them and it’s such a bad thing, but the thing is I was spoilt just same way (only on occasions) come from a wealthy family and I’m not a spoon fed brat like he thinks the kids will be.
They are GREAT kids, polite respectful gracious and thankful.
Am I an asshole not listening to them and buying what I want every year?
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That might offset the childrens presents for your husband.
I have always supported The Smith Family, as it really concerns me about Australian children missing out on opportunities.
Their step dad however, says they are ungrateful turds and deserve nothing, and he usually moans and moans about the gifts I give them, probably causes heaps of disagreements throughout the year because of it.
I personally believe that my husband is jealous of the kids because they aren't his, because my husband is more than happy to accept hugely expensive gifts from me!
But that's a whole different story.
Kids are only kids once and providing you haven't created self entitled little brats I don't see the issue with spoiling them providing it's not sending you into debt doing so.
I agree with those suggesting his issue may be more to do with the fact his upbringing may have put a sour taste in his mouth over Christmas.
Financial disagreements are hard to settle between couples, as long as you're reassuring him that you are not going into debt, or maybe agreeing to cut back a tiny bit without sacrificing xmas too much, I don't really have any helpful suggestions.
But no you aren't an asshole at all
You doing great mamma..
Exactly, he do his. You do yours.
I had a time in my life where I was so careful When buying gifts for my only son due to I didn't earn money and didn't want to spoil my son with buying everything he crying for. Then, it was my upbringing from my dad. ( Dad didn't buy me any of birthday presents until I was 20. He save the money for me and brought a town house for me when I selected to uni. Then, my mum was the one who bought all the birthday presents and little things to create the memor). Then, my husband was one who once a week bring a toy for son until son started school. after all husband got a good salargy and he was so spoiled with presents when he was a child. Then, our life got changed with slowly walking towards to divorce. Now, I am buying small gifts more and more for my son to create memories while husband avoiding buying gifts. Once a while he will buy some expensive some thing like ipad or xbox ( so, husband also can use, play them) but no buying of toys, game boards, books for the past 4 years. ( library books ok)
So , in your case, I do understand both of you have your own values accordingly your up bringings. But most importantly one of you covering the needs of children, That making memories of their lives.
So, you can go ahead, make the Christmas and birthdays are some what special for your loved once. One day your children will be greatful for their beautiful memories and they will do to same for their children too, keeping the tradition.
Also,hope one day your husband will realize how many things he has lost in the life ..
Maybe there was something in his past that really hurt him at Christmas, and the whole thing just turns him off. Something he cant fully express, but makes him fire up.
Reading through your responses to the comments, I do not think you are spending money carelessly. I did the same, loved seeing the looks on little faces, got them things they really wanted and valued. And that are getting handed down to the next generation now.
You do seem to have a big difference in your approaches to money, from your different backgrounds. I suspect its not resolvable, as for you both your approaches are very deep seated.
It might be worth writing out a list of some of the benefits to your approach, comparing and contrasting to his financial approach. And try and have a reasoned discussion rather than a "fight". And at a time of the year other than when Christmas is in full swing. Maybe frame it as a discussion of your overall financial approach. Aimed at developing mutual understanding, and mutual tolerance.
But I would not give in, you would resent not being able to share your much loved experiences from your childhood with your kids.
And you know if your kids are grateful, and generous to others. Ignore the troll comments.
Have you read Scott Papes books, The Barefoot Investor ones. He has some great advice for developing financially responsible and generous kids. That might give you some ideas to enhance their sense of financial responsibility and generosity going forward. Which may help hubby understand that you are not ruining them.
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Great advice to have the conversation outside of the season I’ll definatly try it.
I haven’t read any of those books cos to be honest I’m fairly good with money and always have been. And the kids are learning well, in fact the sell ice blocks outside the school to earn money for things they want and have done since they were 4. So because they know what it’s like to earn money they have respect for it.
I do think it’s rooted in a lot of his upbringing... he is constantly worried about the kids turning into entitled kids and getting too much, but I keep telling him am I entitled? (I grew up well off but have owned my own business since I was 18) anyways I just say to him getting lots of things doesn’t make an entitled kid it’s how you raise them.
I didn’t realise those books had tips for kids in it might be worth a read can always learn new tips.
Thanks
If you choose to buy your husband expensive gifts don't bitch and moan about how he is happy to accept it but doesn't buy you a present.
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Only time iv bought it for him was when money had been tight and he hadn’t bought a new board for a while or when I found a rare one for a good deal , think iv bought him 3 boards. (He has about 20 boards in his quiver)
My point is he’s happy to spend large amounts on himself throughout the year, happy to take the kids to op shops to buy junk everytime he does a tip run (every 2/3 weeks)
But has an issue when I spoil the kids on Christmas, then I’m the asshole for not having the patience to deal with his hypocrisy.
I really wanted to see his side but this post just made me more angry at him now lol.
Bet your kids only say love you at Christmas
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Besides it’s not even us that’s spoiling them it’s santa lol
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He doesn’t have to lift a finger for it.
And he will take the kids to the op shops at least once a month let them buy something impulsive that’s forgotten about for the arvo and sits in the toy box for me to take back to salvos in November.
The presents I buy are things the kids have often wanted most of the year. Good quality and aren’t usually forgotten easily.
I also do dial back a bit. I don’t buy everything I want to.
I feel like I have compromised a lot but he still paints me as this asshole who doesn’t care about his opinion.
I’m a bit annoyed too cos he happily buys (or accepts as a present from me) a $800 surfboard or a bloody 2k foil.
But thinks I’m spoiling the kids buying a bunch of toys once a year that between the 2 of them, equal the same amount he spends on just ONE pf his boards ( he will buy 2-4 boards a year depending on finances.... and Even their birthdays they only get one thing, they get taken to a toy shop and can choose what they want but the whole day we spending doing and eating anything they want.
I just don’t feel like I should compromise any more cos I don’t feel like he’s compromising at all, and he won’t hear me on this. He’s so pissed that I won’t do it his way with the kids. I see his point, I just strongly disagree and am not willing to compromise those memories...
It the same fight every year 😒
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And a lot of them are joint (books , pool toys, and board games are always given as joint gifts.)
I take them seperatly for them to choose a gift for their siblings grandparents and him.
I spend a lot of quality time with my kids always , at Christmas it just becomes Christmas themed. He doesn’t join in the carol nights we go to, it stresses him out, he doesn’t come Christmas light looking.
(That’s not to say he’s not present in his own way he’s great in the day to day.)
I just feel like you do you I’ll do me since we’re so different.
You don’t wanna do all in Christmas I get that, I get his reasons, but it’s a really special time of year for me; and recreating my own treasured memories of Christmas with my kids has been some of my highlight real with parenting. I’d feel resentful letting it go I think.
- when the kids grow up are they going to feel bad they can’t provide the same memories?
- do material things really matter that much?