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State school or private ?

Why? & if you can afford private but chose state what do you do with the saving?

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My cousins all went to Luther College google it. Over $500,000 for 4 kids private tuition and guess what only 1 went onto uni. The rest have every day jobs as cashiers, sales and electrician. So money well spent you tell me? I don't think so. For $500,000 I'd expect my child to be more and do more then end up with a woolies job. That's just me though. Yes I want them happy but for that amount of money you expect more from them. Again maybe we have too high expectations and they are happy working those jobs.

They would have got the same education minus bible studies at a local gov school and could still be on the same life path now. Why waste money when they get the same education as other schools. No school is better then the other they all have to teach the same curriculum.

Its you money you chose what is best for your child.

 You can’t make a dumb kid smart in a private school
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 ^ yeah, I think in most cases these days where you received your education is far less important than your grades.

However not all schools are equal. It depends on the teachers, and the other students. Some teachers can inspire, her the attention of their class. Others have no motivation at all. And..... If the teachers are distracted by kids who are constantly misbehaving they won’t be spending as much time teaching.

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 I totally agree with you can’t make a dumb kid smart comment. My niece struggles with every aspect of school. She just doesn’t get it. So my sister put her in a top private school so she’ll get smart. Year 8 and still doesn’t know her timestables. Tutoring for years hasnt helped. She’s just not academic, which is fine, some kids aren’t. But paying $20,000 a year isn’t going to make her smart.
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The difference between public and private is environment. All schools have to meet curriculum standards. The secret isn't how much you pay, it's parents showing kids how important education is by taking a positive interest in their studies, and picking a school that fits your family.
I have family paying 15k a year per kid at snobby schools and it hasn't stopped one kid from lying, stealing, becoming a gaming addict, and thinking they're better than us.
Mne are public because I'm satisfied with the school. However, if serious issues arose I'd look at private options as I don't like the other public schools in our area.
We spend the money on travel instead and make sure we do things where our kids learn about history, money, culture etc. Their teachers tell me how kids learn so much from travel. ATM it's just better value for us, and I don't fancy working for the next 12 years just to pay school fees, which is what some of my colleagues do!

I chose public because I believe if a child wants to succeed they will. Also because all the local kids went there so they had lots of friends and were happy going everyday. Money wasn’t a factor in my choice. I went private when I was a kid and hated it because I felt isolated and felt education came second to public image. My daughter graduated from one of the worst schools in my state ( according to most people ). She excelled and started University this year. My younger one is doing very well there and my youngest will go too.

 I agree. Kids that go public are more likely to stay at uni.
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 agree. I don't want my kids to be around a smaller minority of people who can afford to pay for school. Yes i'm aware that many people in private now days are average income throwing all their hard earned cash to schooling and not just a 'rich minority', BUT, I want my kids to experience it all. The good, bad, ugly, snooty, low socio, special needs, etc etc. and learn how to cope, adapt, get to know different kids and families. It's how I grew up. Don't want them having just a narrow niche of experiences and kids / people. I do believe public has a bigger mix. Am a public school teacher. Brother was a good sportsman - we had shitter facilities which made it even more awesome when he slugged it out and kicked the a*s of all the private school kids with flashy uniforms, equipment and training facilities haha
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There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that public or private school is better. The best indicator for schooling success for a child is parental involvement. As they move through high school their peers will become the most influential people in their lives. So decide what type of person you want your child to be and steer them towards families with those same morals and values.

 Yes!!
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 Spot on
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Because I can, because it’s not a stretch on our budget. We spend use around 45k a year on school.
my kids did attend a public school for a while before our business blew up, and we found it was poorly run and a lot of kids that to be honest I just don’t want my kids around in their formative years.
They were always losing out because of the disruptive kids in class and they disruptive kids weren’t ever really disciplined and so many times I felt warranted suspension or even expelling in 2 cases, but no.
Private school adds a different set of social issues, but I’d rather my kids hang out with spoilt brats than dilinquent brats.
this is very much our area and situation though so, I know its not the case in everyone’s situation.
We now don’t pay anything to send them there as my families trust fund has taken over school fees, consequently my brother and sister have both put their kids into the same school and don’t have any issues at school any more either.

At the end of the day my kids are happier there and so am I.
Even when we were paying the fees our disposable income covers it easily.
We now use the “saved money” since the trust fund took over to savings accounts for our kids.
The trust fund will buy them a house though so it might be given for a business venture or something.

We use the extra disposable income at the moment to pay off some investment properties and we are looking for someone to buy our business.
We will hopefully retire soon and live off rental incomes. No more than a year.

 I feel sorry for your children. Trust fund? Rental income? Investment properties? Obviously money can't buy happiness. You are splashing the cashed up talk but must have no self esteem. You added nothing to the post.
Mate. Have a word with yourself. And see a psychologist. For your own good, and for that of your kids.

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 Ps no-one buys your bullshit post because of your terrible grasp on the English language 😅
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 😂😂😂 the post was literally about money and why we choose or didn’t private 😂😂
Sounds like a whole lot of projection in those replies.

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 Ps English is my second language.
I have migrant parents lol. 😘

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 My goodness, she literally just answered a question asked. You do realise that some people do have a lot of money, they may even have investments and rental properties 😱. The chip on your shoulder is huge!!!
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 🌟 I feel sorry for your children, trust fund? Rental income? Investment properties? Obviously money can't buy happiness. You are splashing the cashed up talk but must have no self-esteem. You added nothing to the post, mate. Have a word with yourself and go see a psychologist - for your own good, and for that of your kids. 🌟


I fixed up your grammar a little bit for you, mate. Your application of the English language after implying you use it better than this OP, and corrected her while making an alarming number or grammatical errors, warranted a visit from the grammar police (and I’m not even particularly good at English lol, but I did pass year the HSC)

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 ^Thank you grammar police. I'm terribly sorry my Cambridge doesn't weigh up against your HSC. Why did did we move over here 😁
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 Haha that was the worst reply after a burn ever haha she just pointed out your own grammar is shite and you probably shouldn’t be correcting anyone hahaha
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 ^I'm a teacher. In a private school. Funny isn't it.
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 Hahaha your bullshit replies keep getting worse
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 Its not my fault. I have worms.
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My kids started in a religious school and it was ridiculous. They took more holidays than public and weren't teaching sufficiently IMO. I feel like they were teaching so much about Adam and eve and creationism or whatever it's called, and barely covering actual scientific facts about evolution , dinosaurs etc. We pulled them out and now they do public and it's fine

 They can’t have taken more holidays. Schools get set amount but they can chose to have them when they want. The parents at my kids school always complain that our school has too many. Ours adds them on to long weekend breaks giving a longer break. At the private school in my area they don’t do that, instead they return from holidays a day later or finish term a day earlier.
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 I have 2 nieces one in a private high school and one in a private primary school
They both have 3 weeks holiday between terms 2 & 3 and have 8 weeks off over Christmas time plus extra days throughout the year

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 They would do longer school days though.

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 No they didn't do longer school days. They started at 850, and finished at 250. They took 3 weeks instead of 2, and 8 weeks over Xmas, and had no consideration for people who used vacation care (this was brought up during a meeting on extending the holidays and basically the faculty said its not their problem that parents work). They put their fees up 20 % that year also.
Honestly their idea of teaching science was bullshit! How they get away with all this is beyond me!

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 Sorry, you’re wrong. All schools have a set amount of days off school. They are not legally allowed to give extra days off. My high school kids always go back to school on a Tuesday and finish term on a Thursday. My primary kids are always Monday to Friday but their school adds their days off to public holidays. They always have the same amount of school days.
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I feel like private schools(not catholic educ), are great for really smart kids or struggling kids in my area. Going private otherwise would be more about massive insecurity of missing out on something, on my part. I choose to go against that urge, I work at a private school and yes the facilities are good , students seem mannered but kids are overwhelmed with activities in a bad way. I find that spending quality time is better than activities or private schools.. teachers in private schools have a lot of pressure to look and act a particular way, but it doesn’t meant they are that way.. at my school my department is horrible unorganised which for a school paying 30000 plus per year is just disgusting. The other school I work is so much better, teachers are happier and the kids are brilliant, despite being in a poorer area, though it is a Catholics one which helps with parents wanting to try as their family is stretching to cover costs

Both my kids are in public schools, one primary, one high school. We could easily afford private, but I dont like the religious side of things. As we are considered semi-rural our high school gets extra funding and courses made available to the kids. Its q really good school, with a lot of extra facilities a lot of other schools dont have. A lot of people have put their kids in the main private school and have then pulled them out and brought them to the public high school and they are doing much better. My friends were bitching about how bad the principal is at the private school, how much the fees are, the strict rules with uniforms etc. Also, i want my kids to have local friends, not friends from all over the city. We have crap public transport here too and i dont want my kids spending hours every day getting to and from school. My eldest is happy and blossoming where they are, private school would not be suited to them.

Our kids are currently in the religious school system. I'm thinking about enrolling them into the public system next year if I start uni (still in the contemplative stage on that though), just to help us balance out the bills. I should be eligible for HECS but it'll still be a tight squeeze money wise.

I know someone who sends their kids to private and says I don't want my kids to go to a public school puts her nose up to it. But here's the thing she doesn't pay the fees and cries poor and they still let her kids go there!

 They won't for much longer, they are lenient sometimes especially in certain circumstances but they can't do it forever. If she doesn't pay them this year she might have to send them to a horrible dirty public school with her tail between her legs.
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 I hope so! Because I feel sorry for the people paying there fees there.
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I have done so much bloody research on this topic, it is so stressful trying to get it right.
From what I found private schools have better facilities, and better resources. The education is exactly the same in private and public. The level of support and extra help tends to depend on the school, some private will be better and some public will be better. Private schools don't necessarily get better end results, some do some don't. In SA there are a few public schools that are the top performing results wise. Just because a school gets the best results, doesn't make it a great school.
You really need to look at each school individually, you get shit teachers and great teachers in both private and public, there are kids with special needs and behavioral problems in both private and public.
The only real benefit to going private is generally the families will be a higher socio economic status, and a really good high school can be a good start to networking for future careers ( think scotch college)
It really depends on the schools in your area.
Children who attend public school are statistically more likely to complete a uni degree. Unless a private school is one of the top level schools there isn't much difference. Hope that helps.

 Children who attend a public school are statistically more likely to complete a uni degree?

I feel like that comment was maybe supposed to say those at private school would be more likely to complete a uni degree... ??

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 No it's actually public school kids are more likely to complete their degree.
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 I've heard public students tend to do better, I believe it's due to not being so 'spoon fed' so they are used to the more independent study required.
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 Yes that's pretty much it.
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 Yes it’s true, my mother in law works at a university. Private school kids can’t cope and have a high dropout rate. They havnt really been taught how to do things themselves.
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 I live in a low socioeconomic area and our local high school receives a lot of funding. We have excellent facilities. Better than the private high schools in our area.
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 The public school we're zoned for is in a really low socioeconomic part of town and it has soooo many extra programs and extra support, and the indigenous educational programs they run are fantastic! They have services in the highschool too that assist children to get into the workforce or training after they finish up. Brilliant
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I have this thought that richer people have higher morals (yes slam me for that stupid comment) or are smarter people. Any bogans can go to state schools so I’d choose private on that thought alone and if I had enough money.
However, I went to a state school thT offered a great curriculum program with heaps of extra subjects and opportunities that would be on par or more than private ( i pressume)
But my school there were some average people in there (I got bullied) so who knows if it would be better or worse at state or private?

 Many of the more religious schools are academically worse than public. A friends daughter was being taught maths and science by nuns who didn't understand what they were teaching
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 Why would you assume that bogans go to state schools only? I know plenty of cashed up bogans sending their Navaehs and Jhetts to pricey private schools.

State schools have some fantastic programs and funding that money hungry private schools don't

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 Mmmm yeah, you do know money doesn’t mean morals, right? Look at those hollywood stars recently arrested for using their money and star power to get their kids into the best schools. High moral standard right there (not).
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 I would never have made that correlation either. There are some really entitled, close minded kids out there that look down on people "lesser" than them and they quite often come from rich families. I have seen a child laugh at another one because their "new car" was actually second hand. No way I would want my kids around attitudes like that. Even adults that have grown up rich annoy the crap out of me, one of my old school friends is continually showing how out of touch she is with the real world, she has posted about how homeless people have no reason to be homeless in Australia because they all get centrelink payments so she refuses to give them anything and another about how farmers shouldn't whinge about hardship they should just go and get another job like everyone else has to, not put their hands out for money or free hay. She is a real piece of work.
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If they aren't choosing private due to cost there may not be a saving

I went to a private school and have a professional job. My only contact with the public school system was through my dad, a public school tec studies teacher. He wasn’t allowed to fail kids even if they hadn’t done any work, he had kids in grade 9 & 10 that didn’t know how to use a ruler, or read/ write. they weren’t dyslexic they were a product of being pushed up every year without having to come up to any kind of standard. My kids will be going private

 Couldn't fail kids? Umm, that is certainly not common procedure in public schools.
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 No its not at all, I think this poster is confused by thinking kids shouldn't move up a year if they don't meet the benchmarks, not even private schools do that.
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 My friend works at a very fancy private school, she has has to remark kids work when parents complained about a grade. She was basically told to give them a better mark to shut the parents up. This is why private school kids often do very well, they get good marks to get into uni, then find uni too difficult and leave.
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 Its common practice in high schools in my state. They push kids up regardless of them meeting standards or not because they are worried about the social aspects of Keeping them in the same grade. And yes no fail is absolutely a thing in many public schools
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 In my state you are not allowed to keep a kid back at ANY school. They can fail and still be up a grade the next year. I believe that’s why you have so many kids mucking up. They don’t understand any of the work and know they are going to fail so why try? Kids should be held back if they havnt passed the curriculum.
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 No they shouldn't be held back, how is it fair to have teenage kids with learning difficulties in year 2? What about kids that are good at literacy but suck at maths? They keep moving forward because it would be stupid having 16 year olds in with 10 year olds. They have OLNA which deals with this at the end of school. I can guarantee you both publuc and private schools move all kids forward unless its proven that repeating would be beneficial such as too much time off due to illness.
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