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Reasons to work?

Answered 4 years ago

Ok, i will be abused by a few, but those that can give me a genuine answer please step forward.

Im a single parent, like totally single, no weekend dad, and no support at all, i do everything, everyday, forever.

If i work (paid employment) im basically no better off financially, im just looking at a part time gig (probably 3 days per week) give me reasons why i should bother, considering i am already working my arse off every day, up all night with kids and have never and will never get one day or one night off from looking after kids.

Instilling work ethic in my kids is already done, my eldest has been working since age 13 and is a bit of a super star in that regard, and i have always studied and/or been active in the community and at school, so my kids see me ‘working’ in that capacity and see that as work, (im not laying about all day)

The only benefit i can see is Superannuation, is there anything else you guys can see, that i may not be able to see?


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4 years ago
How on earth do you calculate that you will be no better off? Single parents can keep a good portion of their wage and get low cost before and after school care. I know this as several of my friends are working single parents. Even on minimum wagge I cant see how you will be no better off with 1 child. If you had 3 or 4 kids and had to pay childcare for all of them then yeah but I know single parents of 3 who work as well.

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4 years ago
FTB is like minimum 180 per child per fortnight, times that by three. THe other ftb is 160 pf per family. Then you have rent assistance, you have concession entitilements- electricity, phone, rego, travel. Day care and before afterschool is not low cost when you ave a few

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4 years ago
I’m assuming she has more than one child since she refers to kids plural

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4 years ago
And your example might factor in child support

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4 years ago
OP here: ok, i get no child support, or rent assistance i only receive F.tax for two of my kids as my eldest finished year 12 two years early, i have 3 Diploma’s and had worked my whole life from age 14 until the birth of my last child, who is 4 now. Working part time (im a Counsellor) im on about $35000 p/y, with that i can still get around $8000 p/y pension and f.tax which is about $11000 p/y. The problem is i am also in public housing, bringing in this amount of money puts me $16000 over what im allowed to earn to keep the house. (Im lucky to have a lovely house-rare for public housing- in the city with great schools) If i lose the house i will have to go back into the private rental market as i cant get a home loan on my income (or not enough to buy a house) if i go private i will have to work full time, but i will be financially worse off then what i am now and have all the stress of working f/t. Plus if i go private will have to go to a poor area with bad schools. Thoughts?

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4 years ago
OP: In my opinion keep yourself in the best position to allow your children a good schooling - you are afterall investing in their future. If it means working less to be eligible for support that gives your children the best start to life - don't overthink it. Not everyone is born into optimal circumstances. The best we can do is make do with what we have and try to make the most of it. The fact that you are eligible for social housing is enough for me to assume your family benefits from it. The private rental market can be absolutely horrible, destabilising and stressful at times - especially for lower income earners. Not to mention, some real estate agents like to take a power trip. You could also research if it is possible for you to purchase the house you are currently renting - I know there are some schemes in QLD that allow it.

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4 years ago
As per above - should state; To the OP. I'm definitely not the original poster. 😊

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4 years ago
Thanks you for this reply! Another really helpful comment! SAHM community have really rallied around me for my question, and i cant believe it! I was expecting so much abuse!!!

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4 years ago
Im first commenter. Sorry I misread one child. But yes I didnt take into account social housing. But then you didnt put all of that info in the OP either! Specifically you didnt mention you work part time thats very different to not working at all because you will have a work history down the track.

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4 years ago
Is Wa housing different? We just pay a higher rental rate for public housing as the income goes up

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4 years ago
^ The same in WA but there is a limit that you can earn to live in a homeswest house. They don't just kick you out on the street though. They do help finding alternative accomodation

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4 years ago
There are lots of reasons....

Improving a sense of self worth.
Improving self confidence
Giving yourself a purpose outside of home.
Spending time with adults.
Creating new friendships.
Learning new skills.
Using old skills
Living life using your moral compass
Engaging in the wider community.
Contributing to the wider economy.

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4 years ago
Love this ^^

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4 years ago
Excellent list. I would also add to make yourself much more employable when your children are grown. Big gaps in your resume an being older by then make you less employable - better to have your foot in the door already, even if it’s casual part time or study.

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4 years ago
This is a truly lovely response, thank you who ever wrote this, I'm not the original person who posted, but was trying to think of a positive way to give feedback and before I could even begin to think, I started reading and agree with you 100%
Also to add one thing, when your children are grown and you are no longer reviving x amount of $ it would be much more difficult for you enter the workforce as it is now, taking COVID-19 out of the equation.

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4 years ago
I wrote this. Glad people have liked it

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4 years ago
I absolutely agree with you. I work four days, but it doesn’t feel worth it considering all the stress it involves and I was actually thinking about this last night. I calculated all the FTB /care etc if I didn’t and for us, we would get the same back from gov. Not that i would go and quit- but it is crazy to think- as we don’t have any family support or anyone to lean back on and unfortunately have gone through some pretty bad personal experiences to get us in a vulnerable situation. However- once your youngest is 6 are you actually entitled to such a rate? Won’t they more you to From single payment to looking for work? I think you sound smart, but long term the security of working will give you more freedom to grow or atleast feel like you are- but to be honest do whatever you feel suits you, you’d have my support .

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4 years ago
OP here: i want to be your friend! ❤️

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4 years ago
I can't work that out, i work and still get family tax benefit of around 10k a year. But I'm working and earning more money than just a pension

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4 years ago
Depends it might be better for you to study and plan your return to work once the youngest goes to school. If you already have qualifications than you could earn more working. I agree with you low paid jobs are not worth it spend time with your babies x

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4 years ago
You know you can work AND spend time with your babies. Most women in Australia manage it. It is harder as a single parent sure but statistically more single parents work than not, as well.

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4 years ago
I think Counselling will be one of the jobs that remain in the future. Its one thing Artificial Intelligence and Robotics will not be able to replace easily (the human touch).
Since you have qualifications in that field I suggest you do more study to increase your skills and flexibility in that career stream, while you are at home with the children.
It is easier to expand existing skill base than try and change fields entirely.
Could you expand into financial counselling, or organisational psychology which might open up higher level opportunities in business ?
Could you do some unpaid counselling through charities to extend your skills, and contribute even more to society, while preventing an increased income losing you the house.
The house is a MAJOR advantage to your childrens stability and standard of living, not to be underestimated.
Charity work, community work, helping at school is all "work skills" that can be explained on your resume when you are going for full time jobs.

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4 years ago
OP Here: thank you so much for this reply! Very helpful!!

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4 years ago
Me again! Thanks again, so grateful you took the time to think about this and write such helpful stuff! You have made my day!

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4 years ago
OP here: some good points made by all, lots to think about. Anyone still looking at this please read my comments above and let me know your thoughts. Thanks everyone for taking the time and being kind and understanding about things.

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4 years ago
You actually will be much better off financially, in fact being a part time working single mum on benefits is one the best ways you can do it.

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4 years ago
This is incorrect, a common misconception.

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4 years ago
I’ve always worked but lost my job 18 months ago due to shut down. I’m 45 and can’t find any work. It’s seriously depressing. Get a job while you’re young enough and stick at it, even if it’s only a few hours per week. I’d hate for you to be stuck in my position. I’m scared for my future not having a job.

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4 years ago
Time away from your babies, I love my kids to death but fuck a few days a week being an adult is great. When my kids are unwell and I still have to pay daycare fees I end up worse off financially plus work cloths And the shit tonne of make up I am expected to wear (need to cover tired eyes anyway) cost me a bomb.
Still worth it for sanity.
My job is not always understanding if I call in with sick kids but meh I am good at my job when I am there 😁

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4 years ago
I work part time & only find it bearable because i have help from my family but my child isn't at school yet. If I had to deal with my constantly changing shifts & child care I would be super stressed. Everyone is different and have different stress thresholds. don't let anyone make you feel bad for doing what's best for your mental health & your family.

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4 years ago
Not being stuck too long with my little shits

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4 years ago
As someone who was a SAHM for 8 years let me tell you finding employment was almost impossible. Most of my “skills” were outdated so people who wanted to employ someone with experience wouldn’t look at me, then because I had experience I wasn’t looked at for entry level jobs - and round and round we went. Eventually I started looking in a different field but same sort of thing I was doing, that was where I started getting chances.

That is what the benefit of working is.

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4 years ago
This was my thought about OPs situation too, 'keeping your foot in the door' basically.

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4 years ago
You will have to look for work once your child is 6 anyway. Might as well spend that time productively.

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4 years ago
Perhaps a stepping stone to promotion and better pay

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4 years ago
Plus super.